Nikon Z8 Color Science
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Nikon Z8 New & Improved Color Science

The Nikon Z8 has quite a few upgrades over the previous generation of their mirrorless cameras. One of the big upgrades that I noticed almost immediately is the improved color balance, white balance, and auto exposure. It’s just in a whole different class than what we saw in the Nikon Z6 and Z7 cameras.

In this article, I wanted to post some straight-out-of-camera samples and some edited samples and talk about my user experience dealing with the new color, the noise, and the different settings that control the image quality. I’m coming from a Z6, so it’s possible some of these features were in some other cameras I’m not aware of.

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Also, see my Nikon Z8 Accessories List.

Table of Contents

Improved Color Science

We saw this mentioned a little with the Z9 release, but it’s mostly been left out of the Z8 release and rarely mentioned in other reviews.

Color science is more than just the hue of different colors arranged with luminance and saturation. It also has to do with balancing colors with different light sources or in mixed lighting. Auto exposure and auto white balance can also have a huge impact on the look as well. As an example, the Z8 also does something different with highlight roll-off while boosting saturation at those near-clipping bright levels that I found in the Nikon Z8 ISO comparison charts.

Here are some samples of the improved Color Science of the Nikon Z8.

I’ll start with some straight-out-of-camera looks. These are the RAW profiles from Lightroom, which will be slightly different than the actual JPGs the camera renders.

50mm f1.8 sample
ISO 360, f1.8, 1/160 – SOOC RAW – Camera Standard LR – Z 50mm f1.8 S

With the Nikon Z8, and I’m sure the Z9, the color science is so much more balanced and feels so much more alive than the previous cameras. It’s a really big deal for me coming from the Z6, which, in my opinion, struggled with skin tones, mixed lighting, and auto-white balance. This really feels next gen and I’m surprised I don’t see more people talking about it.

Also, the tonality has improved. The colors feel richer, and the tonal contrast (micro-contrast) is better, but that could be because I was on the Z6, which had a softer, almost more pastel rendering, possibly due to the aggressive optical lowpass filters – which I’m not saying that softer rendering of the Z6 was a bad thing. I’ve had more people ask me what camera I was shooting on Instagram than any other camera because of that calmer, more film-mick look.

Camera Portrait With the 35mm f1.8 Lens
ISO 900, f8, 1/160 – SOOC RAW – Camera Portrait LR – Z 35mm f1.8 S

I often hear people say, “Sony colors are accurate, so I can change them to whatever I want in the post.” This is not entirely true. All cameras have their DNA and their look; I like the Nikon look because it’s fun to build off of. Same with the Fujifilm looks, they have some cool styles that are fun to use as starting points. Then when I shoot Canon, even though I still throw a ton of color shifts on it, it still has a Canon DNA to the final image that you just can’t escape. The same is true with Nikon. You can’t simulate the Nikon look with another brand of camera. I tried for years until giving up and just eventually bought Nikon.

Standard
ISO 1250, f3.5, 1/160 – SOOC RAW – Camera Standard LR – Z 50mm f1.8 S

Nikon Z8 Profiles In Adobe Lightroom

Here is a quick look at Nikon Z8 Colors with a few of the different Profiles loaded in Lightroom. JPGs will look slightly different as the camera can do additional processing on them. But this gives us a general idea of the profiles.

Pretty simple scene with a few different colors and lighting sources.

Adobe Color is the default for Lightroom. It’s a fairly neutral look, not too different from Portrait, but Portrait is even more neutral. I use Portrait a lot when I’m working with presets since there isn’t too much color saturation or contrast. The Neutral profile is similar, or you can go more extreme with Flat, but I didn’t share samples of those. At night I usually shoot on Neutral or Flat since I don’t want too much contrast when I’m initially viewing the images to start editing.

I also often shoot with Active D Lighting turned on, which makes some tonal adjustments in-camera that will actually load into Lightroom.

Nex,t in the set above, we have Standard. Standard is a really cool look with really rich reds I like it and it’s great to use in the day or in flat lighting.

Nikon has a few very punchy looks which would be Landscape and Vivid. The Landscape profile is very similar to Vivid it just rolls back the highlights of the sunset colors (oranges and yellows). I rarely use Vivid and Landscape. I generally like starting landscape edits with flatter looks and selectively adding contrast from there. Also, flatter landscapes are more of a trend right now anyway, so really Neutral or Flat would be a better starting point for a Landscape profile. Of course, there are those times when the Landscape or Vivid profiles just work.

Here is a sample with the Flat profile. It was one of those really bright, nasty, overcast days, but the Flat profile actually gives a somewhat usable image. Often, Nikon greens are shifted a little more to the yellow side.

Flat Profile
ISO 64, f8, 1/250 – Camera Flat – Z 40mm f2

Here are a few more samples of the Standard profile in difficult lighting with those really vibrant reds. Great for building an Ektar film simulation. Also, want to point out that I definitely wasn’t getting looks this balanced on my Z6 straight out of the camera. I almost always had to fiddle with the WB on my Z6.

Portrait Impression Balance & Skin Softening

There are a few other features Nikon added that have to do with Skin Tones. One is called Skin Softening which is self-explanatory, and the other is called Portrait Impression Balance.

Portrait Impression Balance – lets you alter the Skin Tone Hue that you can save into 3 different Presets. So if you’re working with a few different models, maybe one has more olive skin, or one has more yellow skin, you can make some micro adjustments to balance them out for your lighting for your client previews so you don’t have to tweak your white balance or lighting for that minor change. I won’t post any samples of this because it’s pretty self-explanatory – the skin tones change hue slightly.

Skin Softening – is not as obvious of an effect. It can be difficult sometimes to tell what it’s doing since the effect can be very subtle.

With Skin Softening, you have three different settings: High, Normal, and Low.

Here are some samples of no Skin Softening vs Skin Softening set to High. – The perfect skin of a 4-year-old isn’t the best example ,but you can also see what it does to the skin tones of the people in the background.

Skin Softening OFF

Skin Softening Effect Turned Off
ISO 500, f2.8, 1/200 – Z 28mm f2.8

Skin Softening ON

Skin Softening Effect Turned On
ISO 500, f2.8, 1/200 – Z 28mm f2.8

All it really seems to do is mute some of the skin colors a little to balance out the different tones. Pulls back those brighter reds and pulls down the highlight tones for less contrast. It doesn’t really add clarity, a soft glow filter, or anything dramatic.

I could see this being useful when dealing with people who may get flushed easily or who are drinking and get blotchy red skin. Maybe wedding and event photographers could find this really useful.

For RAW shooters, it probably doesn’t make that big of a difference, but you can use this feature in H.265 video, which could be a nice effect as well.

Working With Presets

While I love the Nikon native looks, I love using them with presets even more since they give you so many nice starting points to build from. Maybe even more so than Fujifilm, because the different Fujifilm looks are so dramatically different, but the Nikon looks have more variety within the same color palette.

Shave Ice Girl
ISO 3600, f1.8, 1/160

About Fujifilm real quick –

While I still absolutely love my Fujifilm cameras, outside of the fun of Classic Neg, Classic Chrome, and Astia, Nikon pretty much has Fujifilm beat with their color science, in my opinion. Provia and Classic Neg just don’t look that stunning with Fujifilm’s electric greens, even when using Adobe Color or Standard still have issues.

However, you still can’t really do the color shifts quite the same on a Nikon as you can with a Fujifilm, and there are no special effects with Nikon like Fujifilm has. For example, Clarity, Color Chrome, Color Chrome Blue, and Grain, are unique to Fujifilm and allow you to make some pretty cool JPG looks.

I really would wish one day some of that fun would come to Nikon, although I don’t write off all their JPG color effects, Denim, Sepia, Melancholic, Bleached, etc. You can do quite a bit of editing to these by adjusting their strength and then adding some WB shifts to get an interesting look.

But, once you just use Film Simulator Presets when shooting you can get pretty similar results. My presets can be found here.

A flower at Miyajidake Shrine
ISO 220, f2.8, 1/200 – Z 28mm f2.8

Earlier, I was saying Camera Standard is fun to build an Ektar Look off of because of the punchy, rich reds. Here is a good example. This was just my Core III preset applied, with no tweaks other than maybe exposure, and sometimes I’ll tweak the skin tones a little since everyone has slightly different skin that needs balancing out.

Here is a calmer, more dreamy look. Sometimes, I forget how creamy the 50mm f1.8 lens can be at f1.8.

Excited Girl at festival
ISO 900, f1.8, 1/160 – Z 50mm f1.8 S

I also like to use some of the more Neutral looks like Camera Portrait or Neutral as the base with some simpler more classic film looks. I think these were just the Core I looks from my presets. But I have a bunch of new alterations coming to the Core Pack Version 3.

I haven’t shot much landscape photography yet, but I already like what the camera can do with a 90-second exposure in pitch black using Starlight mode. This shot below is barely edited, and the colors out of the camera were just amazing. It’s a stack of about five 90-second exposures.

Still trying to figure out how to do firefly photography. I’ve learned you really only have about 30-40 minutes when they’re active around here. So you need to be set up and ready to go before they even come out – in a place that is not super crowded.

Fireflies in Fukuoka.
ISO 500, f1.8, 90sec

Tonality (Micro-Contrast) Is It Better?

Possibly, it’s just from the higher resolution or not so aggressive of an anti-aliasing filter, but the Z8 files definitely have more bite to them than the Z6. I think this was a big difference between the Z6 and Z7 as well. The Z6 had a very calm look that was often very pleasant at times.

Let’s look at some samples.

The F1.8 S lenses are pretty creamy, to begin with, wide open, but on the Z8 they do feel to pull in a bit more of that mid-tone grit. The 50mm here is not quite as nice as the 40m and 28mm in this regard, but it is nice to see an improvement coming from the camera.

Girl getting Shave Ice.
ISO 2000, f1.8, 1/160 – Z 50mm f1.8 S

It’s especially nice for B&W photography. You can see the 50mm is very sharp still wide open, but it doesn’t quite have the same level of tonality as the lower element lenses. This is often why I like to stop it down to f2 or f2.8, it helps.

Black & White from the Nikon 50mm f1.8 on the Nikon Z8.
ISO 5600, f1.8, 1/160 – Z 50mm f1.8 S

Above is the 50mm f1.8 at f1.8, below the 28mm lens just looks three-dimensional look even more so on this Nikon Z8. People say I never post any examples of MIcro-Contrast. Here you go!

Nikon 28mm with 3D pop.
ISO 500, f2.8, 1/160 – Z 28mm f2.8

Then our friend the 40mm. Those skin tones are always so rich and full of tonal information.

Nikon 40mm with that classic vibe.
ISO 360, f2, 1/125 – Z 40mm f2

Here is a sample taken from the 35mm @ f2.8. You can see it’s better, but the highlights on the face still get a little blotchy which often happens from the higher elements. However, I love the look of the 35mm, it’s one of the most unique 35mm lenses I’ve used, not gritty like a Zeiss 35mm f2.8, but such smooth focus falloff.

35mm with it's amazing focus falloff
ISO 900, f2.8, 1/160

One more shot from the 40mm.

High Micro Contrast Nikon 40mm
ISO 200, f2, 1/125

One thing I will say, maybe a negative about the Z8 compared to the Z6, is the green color shift that happens at very high ISO and the chroma noise that shows up fairly early at even mid-ISO levels. You have to keep High ISO Noise Reduction turned on with this camera.

Nikon Z8 Improved Color Science Conclusions

The color science of the Z8 has seen some pretty nice improvements with also some new features. Since most reviews just call this camera a “Baby Z9” and skip all the nuance, we end up missing all the fun little details and improvements coming from the new image processor without going back and watching Z9 reviews.

Regular Z6 and Z7 users will probably notice the difference almost immediately, but it can still be difficult to tell what’s going on by just looking at samples. You have to use the camera, and then you really see the next level of refinement Nikon gave to the Z8 image processing. It’s really at the top of its class.

Comments

14 responses to “Nikon Z8 New & Improved Color Science”

  1. Arzach Avatar
    Arzach

    Coincidentally, I just watched Sam Hurd review of Z9, where he is praising its new color science, supposing Z8 has the same image processing and therefore also planning to review it. Sadly, it seems colors science is not priority anymore (exept Hasselblad), nowadays it’s all about high ISO, dynamic range and fast read out. Colors and tonality are very subjective and most photographers doesn’t have distinguishing ability to see gentle Vermeer-ish hues. Leica approach to colors and tonality is interesting but their auto exposure and auto white balance lacks consistency.

  2. Michael Steinbach Avatar

    Love the article! We used to refer to the D2x colors as having a special recipe and would load them to the D100 and later cameras. Never quite the same but we tried our best.

  3. Piyush Shaw Avatar
    Piyush Shaw

    Great write up! I have been a regular visitor to your site from the time when I moved to Fuji from a NikonD750. I really liked the Fuji system except the autofocus. As I wanted something better to track my kids, I had to get into Sony system with A7IV. Not sure, but never liked shooting with it. I got a bunch of lenses but colors sooc or even during PP looks off. When I visit the images taken with my D750 I really like the colors and richness it had. I am thinking about moving back to Nikon from Sony just for sooc jpegs. I don’t like PP every time I take a pic. But changing system is expensive. Do you have a Sony system? What are your thought’s on colors? Thanks

    1. Alik Griffin Avatar

      You know the Z8 is the first digital camera I’ve owned where I look at the SOOC image and am totally happy with it most of the time.
      As far as Sony, I shot on Sony since 2013. I only just recently sold my A7rIII since the Z8 was coming up. It was always my landscape camera, but I still always like the Nikon colors more for landscape. There is a lot to like about Sony, their cameras color balance and everything is really good now and it’s great for night scenes or city stuff, but for general day to day shooting or landscapes I just prefer Nikon or Fujifilm colors personally and have slowly over the years made the move more into Nikon. The skin tones, the greens, the blues are just all a little more pleasant straight out of camera.

    2. Usagi Avatar
      Usagi

      Have you tried using the “SH” profile with everything down to 0 (except 1 or 2 in sharpness)? I find the colours to be softer and more neutral, which is great for portraits (adding a bit of saturation may give it a bit more punch for low contrast scenes), and the JPEGs have decent latitude for some post-processing.

      I even did a blind test with my peers comparing Sony a7IV (using 50mm@f1.2 with SH profile) and X-T5 (using 35mm@f1.4 with Classic Chrome) (same subject and composition), and 9 out of 10 thought the a7IV photo looked better, and thought it was taken by the X-T5.

  4. Kib Avatar
    Kib

    Wauv: This is very interesting.

    I have Z6 II and thinking about the Z8.

    I am very interested in colors, so thank you very much.

    I also have the Sony Rx1R and the speciel color-tone here I have never seen from other cameras or lenses, and som people still writes about how fantastic it is, and…. it is.

    But this camera (Sony RX1R) is a bit fragile/not weather protected (cost my nearly 1.000 dollars), so it is not so much used.

  5. Julien Ti-i-Taming Avatar
    Julien Ti-i-Taming

    Really great review! Thanks!
    So, I do have a xt2 and a Z6, I love them both while I prefer the Nikon, for the battery life, the feel of the body, the better weather sealed…
    Apparently you have a ton of Z mount lenses lol, I already have the wonderful 24-70 f4, but I want a smaller lens probably the 28 2.8 or 40 2, but I just saw the 12-28 dx and It looks super versatile. Which lens do you recommend for street photography and travel?
    Many Thanks!

  6. Your mother Avatar
    Your mother

    Colour science lol what does it even mean? Learn to post processes properly before you start chatting rubbish about colour “science”

    1. Alik Griffin Avatar

      lol, I sure hope you’re just trolling or you’re drunk.

    2. BadongT Avatar
      BadongT

      But hurt. Hahaha. Only idi0t like you choose a crap camera and do extra steps to post process later to correct it. why not buy a good camera and less work later.

  7. Miroslav Kravec Avatar
    Miroslav Kravec

    I recently switched from Panasonic Lumix GX80 to Fujifilm X-S20. I like Fujifilm colors. However, those Nikon Z8 colors are quite very nice.

  8. Better color rendering Avatar
    Better color rendering

    You should try processing the raw files with Nikon Studio NX. That really brings the Nikon color science to life. It also lets you, e.g., for images take with skin tuning on, you can turn it off or increase/decrease the effect to see what’s really going on.

  9. Jonathan Avatar
    Jonathan

    I’m not sure if they have it on the Z8 yet, but the Z6III has Creative Picture Controls available in camera, built in NX Studio using the Flexible Color function. You get the same Picture Control features that were in the previous version, but with the addition of the Color Blender and the Color Grading functions. I think this should be as good or better than what you can do in Fuji.

    Wondering if you’ve taken a look at that at all, if you’d consider maybe making some presets. The procedure is to open a Z system RAW in NX Studio, change the PC to Flexible Color, then “Add to Custom Picture Controls”. Then you can export/share the NCP3 files.

    1. Alik Griffin Avatar
      Alik Griffin

      We finally got it just a few days ago with the new firmware. I’ve already been playing with it a lot. It’s pretty powerful. I wish it let us carry over RGB curves, though. That would have been game-changing. But it’s close to as powerful as the Fujifilm simulators, you can do a few extra things like lift shadows and bring down highlights on a tone curve, but there are no grain or clarity effects like Fujifilm.

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